all this is well argued Greg. The other obvious problem lurking here is the usual one. The humanities are seen as the same as the sciences, to all intensive purposed. Even in Europe, where "science" is often a broader category, the differences between disciplines is thought through much more carefully. To put this bluntly, science is much more likely to have a few journals in which everyone publishes. And everyone does know what those journals are. For the humanities, there are no such constraints on quality journals, for all kinds of reasons. Indeed, we are currently seeing a "thousand flowers bloom", by which I mean a proliferation of quality journals - mostly but not only online. <br>
<br>Somewhat ironically, all the talk of quality etc here, when you take the percentage cut offs into account, masks what is essentially a move against this proliferation of interesting, often high quality discussion. The central problem should be of interest then to Cultural Studies. It is precisely not that of quality, but first up, that of maintaining traditional (or newer neoliberal) hierarchies in the face of intellectual life increasingly escaping them. <br>
<br>And I guess I think there might be a much louder and longer protest against not only the complete lack of both quality and thoughtful, fair process in the whole situation (as you demonstrate in your email via comparison with Europe). There needs to be a much louder and longer protest again many of its basic assumptions. Such a protest will only be ignored as long as everyone is concerned about this or that journal (and I can't excuse myself in this respect). <br>
<br>Unfortunately, however, the only places from which such a protest might have some reasonable effect, if it were to be made, are probably those institutions and organizations who are more "traditional" and have some vested interest in the status quo (old or new). Still, as we know many of these organizations have intelligent and sensitive humanities scholars working with them, we live in hope.<br>
<br>best, Andrew<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/7/8 Greg Hainge <<a href="mailto:g.hainge@uq.edu.au">g.hainge@uq.edu.au</a>>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">For information, I just wanted to make one more point in regards to the
rankings of journals in response to Jon's comments that, potentially, "B
is considered dodgy and C, forget it" and his observation that these
exercises can become self-fulfilling as they drive people away from lower
ranked journals. This is all probably spot on and of course for that reason very
worrying, especially when you look at the descriptors for the different ranks. These
are the descriptors found in the guidelines on the ERA process: </span></font></p>
<p style="background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 6pt; margin-left: 0cm; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;">
<font color="black" face="Arial" size="5"><span style="font-size: 15.5pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Tiers
for the Australian Ranking of Journals</span></font></p>
<h2 style="background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><b><font color="black" face="Arial" size="4"><span style="font-size: 12.5pt; color: black;">Overall criterion: Quality of the
papers</span></font></b></h2>
<p style="background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><b><b><font color="black" face="Verdana" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana; color: black;">A* (top 5%)</span></font></b></b><font color="black" face="Verdana" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana; color: black;"></span></font></p>
<p style="background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font color="black" face="Verdana" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana; color: black;">Typically an A* journal
would be one of the best in its field or subfield in which to publish and would
typically cover the entire field/subfield. Virtually all papers they
publish will be of a very high quality. These are journals where most of
the work is important (it will really shape the field) and where researchers
boast about getting accepted. Acceptance rates would typically be low and
the editorial board would be dominated by field leaders, including many from
top institutions.</span></font></p>
<p style="background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><b><b><font color="black" face="Verdana" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana; color: black;">A (next 15%)</span></font></b></b><font color="black" face="Verdana" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana; color: black;"></span></font></p>
<p style="background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font color="black" face="Verdana" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana; color: black;">The majority of papers
in a Tier A journal will be of very high quality. Publishing in an A journal
would enhance the author's standing, showing they have real engagement
with the global research community and that they have something to say about
problems of some significance. Typical signs of an A journal are lowish
acceptance rates and an editorial board which includes a reasonable fraction of
well known researchers from top institutions.</span></font></p>
<p style="background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><b><b><font color="black" face="Verdana" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana; color: black;">B (next 30%)</span></font></b></b><font color="black" face="Verdana" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana; color: black;"></span></font></p>
<p style="background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font color="black" face="Verdana" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana; color: black;">Tier B covers journals
with a solid, though not outstanding, reputation. Generally, in a Tier B
journal, one would expect only a few papers of very high quality. They are
often important outlets for the work of PhD students and early career
researchers. Typical examples would be regional journals with high
acceptance rates, and editorial boards that have few leading researchers from
top international institutions.</span></font></p>
<p style="background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><b><b><font color="black" face="Verdana" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana; color: black;">C (next 50%)</span></font></b></b><font color="black" face="Verdana" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana; color: black;"></span></font></p>
<p style="background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font color="black" face="Verdana" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana; color: black;">Tier C includes quality,
peer reviewed, journals that do not meet the criteria of the higher tiers.</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">One would think from this that in fact A* A and B would be very good
journals, whilst C might be the only dodgy category. As this drives changes in publication
amongst researchers independently or at the behest of institutions will this be
how the B category is considered? Who knows. </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">What I find particularly worrying about these descriptors and their
respective percentile bands, however, is that 50% of journals are expected to
be in category C, in other words below standard (if you take it that the
descriptor for category B really describes an academic journal showing
acceptable quality control, with a level of integrity and process and a range
of contributing authors). This seems to me to show an extraordinary lack of
faith in the academic community's ability to self-regulate. Are 50% of
journals out there really below the standards laid out in B? </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Now contrast this to the equivalent paragraph from the European
Reference Index for the Humanities guidelines (that drew up procedure for the
European Science Foundation's equivalent exercise). Look carefully at the
amount of attention given to the possibility of difference from one discipline
to another, the emphasis on ensuring that even C journals are considered
reputable, the careful differentiation of category A and B and the flexible
percentile bands given (10-25% in the A and B category, with no hard line on
the split between those two). Little wonder that their lists (yes that's
right, individual lists drawn up by different discipline areas!) seem somehow
much much better than the one we're currently trying to stick band aids
all over. (and if you want to see their lists, be they final or initial, see
here: <a href="http://www.esf.org/research-areas/humanities/research-infrastructures-including-erih/erih-initial-lists.html" target="_blank"><font color="black"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none;">http://www.esf.org/research-areas/humanities/research-infrastructures-including-erih/erih-initial-lists.html</span></font></a>)
</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F8F8t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F8F8t00;">Standards :</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F8F8t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F8F8t00;">All </span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">journals
included must fulfil normal </span></font><font face="TTE161F8F8t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F8F8t00;">international academic </span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">standards,
i.e. selection of articles is based on an objective review policy. This quality
control is normally through peerreview, and it is expected that journals would
depart from peer review only where there is another system ensuring quality
control. In some scholarly traditions peer-review is an unfamiliar procedure.
It is one aim of ERIH to encourage top-journals to adopt a coherent peer-review
system. The journals must fulfil basic </span></font><font face="TTE161F8F8t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F8F8t00;">publishing
standards </span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">( i.e. ISSN, timeliness of publication, complete
bibliographic information for all cited references, full address information
for every author).</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">ERIH strives only to list "good
scientific journals". The only way to avoid category "C"
being perceived as a residual category is to apply this principle thoroughly
also to category "C". Only journals that fall into the following
three categories should be included.</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F8F8t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F8F8t00;">Categories :</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">1) Journals category </span></font><font face="TTE161F8F8t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F8F8t00;">A</span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">:
i.e. high-ranking international publications with a very strong</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">reputation among researchers
of the field in different countries, regularly cited all over</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">the world.</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">2) Journals category </span></font><font face="TTE161F8F8t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F8F8t00;">B</span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">:
i.e. standard international publications with a good reputation</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">among researchers of the
field in different countries.</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">3) Journals category </span></font><font face="TTE161F8F8t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F8F8t00;">C:
</span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">research journals with an important local / regional
significance</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">in Europe,
occasionally cited outside the publishing country though their main target</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">group is the domestic
academic community.</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">Nota bene:</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">6 For categories A and B,
journals published in the whole world can be considered</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">6 For category C, only
European journals must be considered.</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">6 It is recommended that in
category A, only 10 to 25% of the total list should appear;</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">this percentage target will
differ from one discipline to another.</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;"> </span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">2</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F8F8t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F8F8t00;">"International
journals":</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">1) A journal is </span></font><font face="TTE161F8F8t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F8F8t00;">international
</span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">(Categories A and B) when the following requirements
are</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">fulfilled in addition to
those that apply to all journals:</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE1670350t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE1670350t00;">• </span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">A
genuine, varied and regular international cohort of contributors and readership</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE1670350t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE1670350t00;">• </span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">Consistently
high-quality scholarly content</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE1670350t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE1670350t00;">• </span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">Broad
consensus within the field concerning international status and visibility</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;"> </span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">2) In addition, they will
have some, though not necessarily all, of the following characteristics:</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE1670350t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE1670350t00;">• </span></font><font face="TTE1A679B0t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE1A679B0t00;">Active
</span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">international advisory board</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE1670350t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE1670350t00;">• </span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">Open
to unsolicited contributions</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE1670350t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE1670350t00;">• </span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">Highly
discriminating and selective in the choice of articles published</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE1670350t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE1670350t00;">• </span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">Published
on time and to an agreed schedule</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">The difference between
category 'A' and category 'B' journals is likely to be
the degree to which they conform to 1) above, and both the number of
characteristics under 2) to which they conform as well as the degree of
conformity. Generally, 'A' journals should conform to more of these
characteristics, and to a greater extent, than 'B' journals. </span></font><font face="TTE161F8F8t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F8F8t00;">Language
: </span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">Main international languages in this context are
English, French, German, Spanish and Russian. However, journals in other
languages can also be "international", when they are being used as "forum
language" for specific research communities. Similarly, there may be non-European
journals, that are international in character, in languages other than European
languages, which can be included in categories A and B. </span></font><font face="TTE161F8F8t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F8F8t00;">Process</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE1670350t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE1670350t00;">• </span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">ESF
(SCH) Member Organisations provide initial lists of journals in 15 disciplines,</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">and contribute through
further consultation</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE1670350t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE1670350t00;">• </span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">15
ERIH Expert Panels analyse, harmonise and finalise lists of graded journals in</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">categories A, B and C.</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE1670350t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE1670350t00;">• </span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">ERIH
Steering Committee supervises and unifies methodology ("bottom up")
and</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">reports to Standing
Committee for the Humanities, and through ESF / SCH to HERA</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">/ European Commissions</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE1670350t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE1670350t00;">• </span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">ESF
Standing Committee for the Humanities approves final reference lists and</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">ensures acceptance</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE1670350t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE1670350t00;">• </span></font><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">They
develop a financial continuity plan and make recommendations on future</span></font></p>
<p style=""><font face="TTE161F970t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: TTE161F970t00;">development of ERIH</span></font><font face="TTE161F8F8t00" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: TTE161F8F8t00;"></span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">In the hope that this further informs deliberations</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p><font color="#888888">
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Greg</span></font></p></font><div class="Ih2E3d">
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: navy;">Dr Greg Hainge, Senior Lecturer in French,
French Coordinator,<br>
</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;">School</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"> of </span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;">Languages</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"> and Comparative Cultural Studies, </span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;">University</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"> of </span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;">Queensland</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;">, Qld 4072, </span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;">Australia</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;">.<br>
tel: (Int. + 61) (07) 3365 2282 fax: 3365 6799<br>
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