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Hi Jon (and other members):<br>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">You are the first or only person to
have such reaction. <a
href="http://www.arc.gov.au/pdf/ERA_ConsultationPaper.pdf">Consultation
Paper</a>
(ERA, June 2008) reads: “ERA will not determine the allocation of
research block grants.”
(p. 6). If you have not, you may like to see the entire paper
hyperlinked above.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
Best,<br>
Ariel<br>
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Jon Stratton said the following on 7/07/2008 3:01 PM:
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"> Thanks for this, Ariel.
<ponder>. Ranking journals immediately opens the way for claims
about the quality of a person's research dependent on what journals
they publish in. I find it hard to believe that, if it were found that
the researchers in university x published predominantly in journals
classified as C as compared to researchers in university y who
published predominantly in journals classifed as A* and A, that a
different valuation would be made about the quality of research at
university x as compared to university y. More, I find it hard to
believe that the university administrators in university x would not
start putting pressure on their researchers to publish in journals that
are ranked higher because they would expect that, at some point, first
prestige then funding would become issues. Which makes me wonder, if
Krishna is right, why she thinks this exercise is being perpetrated on
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">cheers,</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">Jon</font></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Mon 7/07/2008 12:52 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [csaa-forum] Re: ERA rankings<br>
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<p><font size="2">Dear All:<br>
<br>
Just in case useful. Last week at the ASAA Conference in Melbourne, I<br>
attended a special session on ERA, where Krishna Sen, Executive<br>
(Director of Humanities and Creative Arts, Australian Research Council)<br>
spoke. Two things that she emphasised more than once were (a) that this<br>
whole ERA excerise will not consider “impact”, and (b) it will not in<br>
any way be connected to funding to universities (thus implying that no<br>
one in any immediate and material terms will be penalised for being<br>
ranked low). She also said, with some pride, these are two things that<br>
distinguish ERA from RQF.<br>
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Ariel<br>
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