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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear All, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>One would imagine that the percentiles can
only be applied to the list as a whole. One would therefore hope that
disciplines would not attempt to degrade all journals in another discipline
area so as to get more of their own into the top rankings and that, therefore,
the percentage of journals in each band within each discipline would more or
less correspond to the overall picture. In areas where a discipline is systematically
ranked low, however, this very fact provides particularly compelling evidence,
I feel, for the reconsideration of rankings assigned. However, taking into
account the  big picture and percentage questions, it is probably equally
important to &#8216;demote&#8217; certain journals that you feel have been
over-ranked for whatever reason, and to give reasons as to why (hard to demote
any film studies journals at present though!!!). This is of course a tricker area
to reach consensus on because of the obviously problematic politics of
suggesting such things in on online forum such as this. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It seems apposite in light of this
discussion to pass on this, just in from the AAH. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>Dear humanities colleagues,<br>
<br>
I am writing to follow up on my email of two weeks ago regarding the
ARC&#8217;s work on the ERA journal rankings. There have been some good
developments.<br>
<br>
Since that time, the draft rankings have generated a significant volume of
responses (both directly to the ARC and indirectly through the Academy and
other organisations). This clearly indicates that the sector needs more time
and additional channels for the provision of advice on necessary improvements
to the rankings.<br>
<br>
<font color=red><span style='color:red'>The ARC has agreed to extend the
submission period by three weeks until 14 August 2008.</span></font> <font
color=red><span style='color:red'>Institutions and scholarly societies are
asked to make responses based on the excel workbook that suggest propose
additions, deletions, promotions and relegations to the journal rankings.<br>
</span></font><br>
As mentioned earlier, the Academy is unable to make a direct response,<font
color=red><span style='color:red'> but I would encourage all discipline
societies and associations to consider submitting their views.</span></font> <font
color=red><span style='color:red'>Individual scholars should contact their
research offices and/or their societies to ask how they can feed in their
expert opinion. More information on the consultation process is here:<br>
<u><a href="http://www.arc.gov.au/era/submissions_ranking.htm"
title="blocked::http://www.arc.gov.au/era/submissions_ranking.htm"><font
color=red title="blocked::http://www.arc.gov.au/era/submissions_ranking.htm"><span
title="blocked::http://www.arc.gov.au/era/submissions_ranking.htm"><span
style='color:red'>http://www.arc.gov.au/era/submissions_ranking.htm</span></span></font></a><br>
</u></span></font><br>
Again, I would like to emphasise that this is a genuine consultation process,
which is why the rankings are not yet perfect &#8211; they need the further
input of humanities scholars to get them into shape. A further step will be to
ensure that other indicators are developed and refined to avoid over-reliance
upon rankings. Your contributions will be vital to ensuring that ERA is the
most effective quality assessment process that our sector can build. Once it
has had sufficient humanities input, I have no doubt that ERA will be a vast
improvement on the current set of indicators that are used to proxy for quality
(which stack the game considerably against our disciplines).<br>
<br>
Once again, please pass this on to colleagues who may be interested in ERA
development issues. <br>
<br>
With kind regards,<br>
John<br>
<br>
Dr John Byron<br>
Executive Director<br>
The <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Australian</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
 w:st="on">Academy</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> of the Humanities</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Dr Greg Hainge, Senior Lecturer in French,
French Coordinator,<br>
</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><ns0:PlaceType
 w:insAuthor="Greg  Hainge" w:insDate="2008-07-07T14:41:00Z"
 w:endInsAuthor="Greg  Hainge" w:endInsDate="2008-07-07T14:41:00Z"><st1:PlaceType
 w:st="on"><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>School</span></font></st1:PlaceType></ns0:PlaceType><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> of </span></font><ns0:PlaceName
 w:insAuthor="Greg  Hainge" w:insDate="2008-07-07T14:41:00Z"
 w:endInsAuthor="Greg  Hainge" w:endInsDate="2008-07-07T14:41:00Z"><st1:PlaceName
 w:st="on"><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>Languages</span></font></st1:PlaceName></ns0:PlaceName><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> and Comparative Cultural Studies, </span></font><ns0:PlaceType
 w:insAuthor="Greg  Hainge" w:insDate="2008-07-07T14:41:00Z"
 w:endInsAuthor="Greg  Hainge" w:endInsDate="2008-07-07T14:41:00Z"><st1:PlaceType
 w:st="on"><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>University</span></font></st1:PlaceType></ns0:PlaceType><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> of </span></font><ns0:PlaceName
 w:insAuthor="Greg  Hainge" w:insDate="2008-07-07T14:41:00Z"
 w:endInsAuthor="Greg  Hainge" w:endInsDate="2008-07-07T14:41:00Z"><st1:PlaceName
 w:st="on"><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>Queensland</span></font></st1:PlaceName></ns0:PlaceName><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'>, Qld 4072, </span></font><ns0:country-region
 w:insAuthor="Greg  Hainge" w:insDate="2008-07-07T14:41:00Z"
 w:endInsAuthor="Greg  Hainge" w:endInsDate="2008-07-07T14:41:00Z"><ns0:place
  w:insAuthor="Greg  Hainge" w:insDate="2008-07-07T14:41:00Z"
  w:endInsAuthor="Greg  Hainge" w:endInsDate="2008-07-07T14:41:00Z"
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    color=navy><span style='color:navy'>Australia</span></font></st1:country-region></st1:place></ns0:place></ns0:country-region><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'>.<br>
tel: (Int. + 61) (07) 3365 2282 &nbsp;fax: 3365 6799<br>
personal web page: geocities.com/ghainge/</span></font></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><br>
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******<br>
President of the Australian Society for French Studies&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
******<br>
_Culture Theory and Critique_ Editorial Board.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
******<br>
_Contemporary French Civilization_ Editorial Board.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
******<br>
_Etudes Celiniennes_ Editorial Board.<br>
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  w:insAuthor="Greg  Hainge" w:insDate="2008-07-07T14:41:00Z"
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color=navy><span style='color:navy'> and NZ Representative of the Société
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