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<title>Re: [csaa-forum] Another attack on CS in the Oz</title>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For what it&#8217;s worth, I share
Mark&#8217;s reading of it. There are real differences between attacks such as
this one and that provided by Windschuttle. I think this person genuinely
wanted to be informed by the conference and found that its language was alienating
&#8211; and therefore suggested that maybe this is something we should think
about if we want our work to have a social function. Given the topic of the
conference, and its objectives, that&#8217;s not an unreasonable position. It
is damaging to have it published in the Australian, and it may well be the case
that its inclusion is motivated by rather less sympathetic considerations than
its author&#8217;s, but we need to think carefully about this kind of stuff,
take it one piece at a time, avoid characterising it as motivated by a
particular pathology or orientation, and be alert to the possibility that they
may actually have a genuine point with which we can engage. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>A response could well admit the distance
created by such language, while nonetheless defending the need for people to
work through these issues in their own way and at the highest level, and
suggest that while the context of the topic might be the everyday, the capacity
to deal with these problems so as to fully understand them is quite clearly not
something that is part of the everyday life of most people. That is where
academics come in. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It might also be useful to take the lead
from this piece and consider if there could be some more publicly accessible
outcome from the conference that even a columnist for the Australian would not
find alienating, but would find informative. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And, finally, given the regularity with
which this kind of issue is raised &#8211; particularly by those writing in the
Australian&#8212;it is probably helpful to be reconciled to the fact this comes
with the territory of working in a critical discipline and we are always going
to be called to account by those outside it. I think we can wear that
responsibility. &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Graeme<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
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[mailto:csaa-forum-bounces@lists.cdu.edu.au] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Mark Gibson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, 28 July 2006 12:27
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> csaa-forum@lists.cdu.edu.au<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [csaa-forum] Another
attack on CS in the Oz</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=1 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Hi Amanda,<br>
<br>
Is this one &#8216;anti-left&#8217;? Looks to me more like an attempt to claim
the &nbsp;position of the &#8216;true left&#8217; against a current, as Emma
Dawson would have it &#8216;degraded&#8217;, academic form. She&#8217;s
certainly &#8216;anti-theory&#8217;, but I wonder whether a different kind of
response is called for in cases like these than to a Bolt or Windschuttle. It
is not nice being attacked in public, but isn&#8217;t this really someone we
should be trying to talk around, find common ground with ...?<br>
<br>
- Mg<br>
<br>
On 28/7/06 9:11 AM, &quot;Amanda Wise&quot; &lt;amanda.wise@scmp.mq.edu.au&gt;
wrote:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Any CSAA-ers want to write a letter
defending us?<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Another anti-left, anti-theory attack in today&#8217;s Australian, attacking
the &#8216;Everyday Multiculturalism&#8217; conference we are holding here at <st1:place
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 w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> which a number of you are
presenting at.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<a
href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19933096-7583,00.html">http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19933096-7583,00.html</a>
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&nbsp;<br>
Cheers<br>
Amanda <br>
&nbsp;<br>
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